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You’re always learning (at an advanced level that usually means cultural stuff)

Andrew — Mon, 12 Jun 2017 22:43:01 +0000

So I just started watching Ocho Apellidos Catalanes and I’m immediately running into words and phrases I don’t know. I’ve been learning Spanish for something like 9 years now.

“What, don’t you speak Spanish yet?”

No one ever really “speaks” any language in the sense that you mean it there. When you say that, you mean to have learned a language such that you no longer have to look anything up, meaning that you no longer (ever) run into words or expressions you don’t know. Native speakers can’t do this in their own language. You can’t do this in your own language: how often do you hear words or phrases in your own native language you don’t know and, if you want to know, you have to look them up or ask someone? Take this for example:

¡Me pillas sin ajo de las Pedroñeras para las migas!

…is what I’m referring to there. That means, “You catch me without garlic from the Pedroñeras for the migas!”.

Ok, there are two problems there: “migas” and “las Pedroñeras”. Both of those are specific to Spanish culture and if you’re not familiar with that you’re not going to know what those mean. Native Spanish speakers from anywhere outside Spain (Mexico, Colombia, Chile, etc.) wouldn’t know what the hell those were. They would have to look them up. So why shouldn’t you?

And for the curious (I hope that’s all of you): “migas” literally means “scraps” or “crumbs” but refers to a Spanish dish originally made for breakfast using bread from the previous day (hence the term “migas”: “scraps/crumbs”). It’s now evolved into something quite a bit more (please see preceding link to the Wikipedia article for more information). “Ajo” is just Spanish for “garlic”, but “las Pedroñeras” is a place (in Spain) known in particular for their exceptionally good, distinctively violet, garlic.

How would you know any of this if you weren’t Spanish? I dare say a good number of Spanish adults, even, couldn’t tell you what, or where, “las Pedroñeras” is! How do you expect yourself to just automatically know?

People seem to think there comes a point in learning a language, once you get advanced enough, where you “know” that language, e.g. “he knows Spanish”, and that means you can hear or read anything in that language and understand all of it immediately without ever needing a dictionary. Think about how ridiculous this is! You can’t even do this in your own language!

Fellow native English speakers: ubiquitous, pretentious, cynical, apathetic, conundrum, love, albeit, ambiguous, integrity, affect/effect. Can you properly define all of these? Could you explain to a non-native speaker what they are? According to Merriam-Webster, these are the ten most-looked-up words of all time in their dictionary.

What about words that spontaneously enter popular culture due to their use by a prominent public figure? Check out the 12 most looked-up words of the 2016 election. Things like “redacted”, “kerfuffle”, and “braggadocious” make an appearance (and, interestingly enough, a Spanish word: “hombre”).

Go a little easier on yourself and your fellow polyglots. Just because someone encounters a word or expression they don’t know doesn’t mean they don’t (fluently) speak the language in question. The word “fluent” is a whole other set of problems but that’s for another time…

I learned to speak conversational Spanish in six months using TV shows, movies, and even comics: I then wrote a book on how you can, too

I have a whole method and a book I wrote about it called The Telenovela Method where I teach you how to learn Spanish from popular media like TV shows, movies, music, books, etc. that you can all find online for free. It was the #1 new release in the Spanish Language Instruction section on Amazon for nearly a month after it came out and currently has 17 reviews there with a 4.9/5 stars average. It's available for $7.99-$9.99 for the e-book version depending on who you buy it from (Kindle version on Amazon is now $7.99) and $16.99 for the paperback (occasionally a bit cheaper, again, depending on who you buy it from).

It's currently available in both e-book and paperback from:

Cheers,
Andrew

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How Did YOU Get Fluent?

Andrew — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:55:33 +0000

Firstly, I’d like to point out a fascinating thread over at Reddit discussing this exact question that has a lot of interesting responses and turned into a great discussion: How did you become fluent in another language?

Secondly, if you haven’t joined the language-learning subreddit on that site, you should, it’s worth joining just for that alone (and the people on reddit are awesome for the most part, by the way): /r/LanguageLearning

Thirdly, if YOU have ever learned another language to fluency (we’ll say “conversational fluency”, basically just to the point where you could readily converse with the natives about whatever) then I’d like to hear from you in the comments about how you managed to do that!

I learned to speak conversational Spanish in six months using TV shows, movies, and even comics: I then wrote a book on how you can, too

It's currently available in both e-book and paperback from:

Cheers,
Andrew

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What Does It Mean to Be Fluent in a Language? Fluency Levels Don’t Really Exist

Andrew — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:00:15 +0000

Spoken or written with ease

That’s the primary definition in the dictionary for the word “fluent”, and you know what: that’s the only thing that the word “fluent” absolutely, definitely means regardless of who you’re talking to. That’s as far as I’m willing to go on the issue–the term is such an arbitrary one so widely open to differing

interpretation that it is just short of meaningless.

The only thing you can say for certain is that if someone is to be called “fluent” then their speech and/or writing should be relatively smooth, it shouldn’t seemed forced, choppy, or difficult for them to perform, and even then I guarantee you I’m going to get shit over that definition (someone will pop in and say how someone can still be “fluent” while having trouble speaking in the language in question, just watch it’ll happen). Just to back myself up again, from the Wikipedia entry for “fluency”:

Language fluency is used informally to denote broadly a high level of language proficiency, most typically foreign language or another learned language, and more narrowly to denote fluid language use, as opposed to slow, halting use.

Look, that’s pretty much it as far as a concrete definition is concerned: it should “sound smooth”.

What do I consider fluent?

I personally have two different types of fluency, I think this works really, really well, and it’s very simple and easy to understand:

1. Native fluency: Simple, this is when you’re at the same level of proficiency in the language as a native speaker–you have their vocabulary, you know all the idioms and slang and cultural references a native would, and you have a perfect accent. If a native speaker were to have a 3-hour-long conversation with you face-to-face (presuming your appearance wouldn’t give you away as a non-native) and they were asked afterward by someone if you were a native speaker of their language, they would say with 100% certainty that you were.

I’ve known one person like this, a Japanese girl I knew in college named Saria. She came to the U.S. for the first time when she showed up for college (she would’ve been 18), and she spoke perfect American English, if you had talked to her for an hour or so you would’ve sworn she was an American (obviously of Asian descent due to her appearance, but definitely American none the less). I seem to recall she had been learning English since grade school and had taken a personal interest in it and American culture, so she watched lots of American movies and learned the accent and all the slang and idioms and such from that.

2. Conversational fluency: This is what I aim for when I’m learning a language, and when I’ve achieved it then it’s time to move on to a new language. It’s when you’re capable of having a conversation about normal everyday things with a native speaker at a normal conversational rate of speed–things in the news, sports, grocery shopping, buying a cup of coffee, buying clothes, picking up a girl at a bar, making jokes, etc.: everyday stuff. The way that I test this is the following criteria that I got from Tim Ferriss (also a well-known polyglot) and modified a bit:

I must be able to speak for 30 minutes straight with a native speaker about items randomly pulled from a newspaper (online or paper, doesn’t matter) without using any reference materials. I cannot choose not to use a randomly chosen item (I can’t say “oh, that one’s too hard, pick another”), though I may ask the native speaker for help if I run into a word or phrase I don’t understand (just like you’d be able to in the real world–the reason I don’t allow any other references is because you wouldn’t typically have those in the real world). Also, this must be done at a regular conversational rate of speed (the rate of speed at which a native speaker would normally speak).

There ya go. I’m really curious to hear what other people’s definitions are of fluency, put them in the comments!! Also… If you thought the above was at all useful and you want to learn (or are learning) Spanish, please give me a chance and read what I have to say about my book below! Thank you so much for checking out my blog and I hope you’ve enjoyed my writing.

I learned to speak conversational Spanish in six months using TV shows, movies, and even comics: I then wrote a book on how you can, too

I have a whole method and a book I wrote about it called The Telenovela Method where I teach you how to learn Spanish from popular media like TV shows, movies, music, books, etc. that you can all find online for free. It was the #1 new release in the Spanish Language Instruction section on Amazon for nearly a month after it came out and currently has 17 reviews there with a 4.9/5 stars average. It’s available for $7.99-$9.99 for the e-book version depending on who you buy it from (Kindle version on Amazon is now $7.99) and $16.99 for the paperback (occasionally a bit cheaper, again, depending on who you buy it from).

It’s currently available in both e-book and paperback from:

Cheers,
Andrew

Oh, P.S. For those of you who want something really complicated (and it’s official, too! U.S. Foreign Service Institute stamped and approved!), check out the ILR (Interagency Language Roundtable) Scale.

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